ETA 2472

 
ETA 2472 |

ETA 2472

Description

The 11 1/2 ligne ETA 2472, which debuted in the mid-1950s, is part of one of ETA’s most successful automatic movement families and was produced for almost 20 years.

The entire caliber family is in turn based on the manual-winding ETA 2390 family.

Because of its popularity, third-party manufacturers also gave it their own caliber designation and were available, for example, as the Kienzle 70/1 or MSR T.26.

ETA 2472: base plate

base plate

The base plate already reveals the gear train design, which was almost revolutionary at the time, and the fine workmanship of this movement. You can also see that the 11.5-ligne version extends the base plate externally, while the base caliber, the ETA 2450, has a diameter of just 10.5 lignes.

ETA 2472: gear train

gear train

As mentioned, the gear train design is very modern and has been typical of ETA movements since the 1950s: The mainspring barrel drives the third wheel, followed by the third wheel, center seconds wheel, and escape wheel, all in a very compact and space-saving design.

ETA 2472: side view of the gear train

side view of the gear train

The movement is driven by the pinion of the third wheel located on the dial side, which drives the minute wheel.

ETA 2472: side view of the gear train

side view of the gear train

The balance, which was probably also available as a screw balance, is already a modern screwless annular balance with three spokes in these examples from the 1960s. It is protected against shocks by a pair of Incabloc shock absorbers and still operates at a slow 18,000 A/h.

The effective length of the hairspring, and thus the frequency of the balance, is adjusted using a long regulator arm.

The attached self-winding module provides recesses for both the shock absorber and the regulator arm.

ETA 2472: inside gear train bridge

inside gear train bridge

The crown wheel is mounted on the barrel bridge for lateral movement. In the ETA 2472, the pawl engages the crown wheel, not the ratchet wheel; the latter is connected to the selfwinding module.

ETA 2472: movement w/o selfwinding module

movement w/o selfwinding module

The two reduction gears of the selfwinding module (the second one engages with the ratchet wheel) are mounted on the gear train bridge; the corresponding holes for the module’s axes can be seen at 5 and 6 o’clock on half the radius.

ETA 2472: empty selfwinding module

empty selfwinding module

In the old ETA selfwinding modules, the ratchet wheels are still mounted on fixed axles and do not have any axles themselves. This makes them significantly less susceptible to wear than modern ETA automatics, where the axles of the fast-rotating ratchet wheels often wear out after just a few years.

ETA 2472: ratchet wheel

ratchet wheel

The two ratchet wheels are connected at their bottom, while the top engages with the rotor.
In one direction of rotation, the upper and lower wheels are connected, while in the other direction, they are idle. This ensures that no matter which direction the rotor rotates, the second ratchet wheel, which drives the reduction wheel, always rotates in the same direction.

ETA 2472: lower side selfwinding module

lower side selfwinding module

The two reduction gears also have hollow bearings and are mounted on the axles of the selfwinding module. A lever on the first reduction gear ensures that it does not fall out; the second reduction gear engages with the ratchet gear and therefore does not require any additional securing.

ETA 2472: gear train of the selfwinding module

gear train of the selfwinding module

The oscillating weight of the ETA 2472 is screwed onto the inside of the module.

ETA 2472: selfwinding module without oscillating weight

selfwinding module without oscillating weight

The rotor cannot therefore be removed without removing the selfwinding module, as is the case with later versions of ETA selfwinding movements.

ETA 2472: inside the rotor

inside the rotor

The complete selfwinding module is attached to the movement with two screws.

ETA 2472: selfwinding module with rotor

selfwinding module with rotor

As already mentioned, the movement is driven from the dial side. The pinion of the third wheel (at the 7:30 position near the center) engages with the minute wheel. On the minute wheel, equipped with a slip clutch, is the cannon pinion, which carries the minute hand, as well as the gearing for the change wheel. The change wheel is connected, as usual, to the crown wheel for setting the time.

ETA 2472: mostly empty dial side

mostly empty dial side

The date mechanism of the ETA 2472 is quite complex due to its instantaneous switching at midnight, and can only be disassembled following instructions of the service manual.

ETA 2472: date mechanism ratchet wheel and lever

date mechanism ratchet wheel and lever

The date wheel, which rotates once a day, preloads the date lever and releases it with a single stroke at midnight.

ETA 2472: date mechanism

date mechanism

A semi-quick calendar correction is possible by turning the time back to 8 p.m. and then advancing it again past midnight.

ETA 2472: ETA 2472: Dial side

ETA 2472: Dial side

Despite its automatic movement and its complex, instantaneous switching date mechanism, the ETA 2472 is quite slim. This was certainly one of the factors contributing to the movement’s popularity.

In the lab

This specimen shown here came into the archive well used and heavily resinified, and was given a simple service.

Timegrapher result

These rates ​​are far below what this movement is normally capable of. With a professional overhaul, it could at least bring it close to the chronometer standard.

horizontal positions
dial up+9 s/d231°0,1ms
dial down+-0 s/d238°0,2ms
vertical positions
crown right (12 up)-9 s/d214°0,3ms
crown up (3 up)-17 s/d208°0,0ms
crown left (6 up)-52 s/d191°0,0ms
crown down (9 up)-57 s/d183°0,3ms

Technical data

Manufacturer:ETA
Caliber:2472
Caliber base:ETA 2450
Size:11 1/2''' (measured: 25,6mm)
Height:5,2mm
A/h:18000
lift angle:52°
Number of jewels:21
Escapement:Pallet lever
Balance types:Nickel anular balance
Shock protection(s):Incabloc
Balance bearing / direction hairspring:Clockwise
Moveable stud:yes
Adjust mechanism:Long regulator arm
Construction:
  • lever
  • escape wheel, seconds wheel, third wheel, large driving wheel
  • mainspring barrel
Winding mechanism:yoke winding system
Setting lever spring:2 holes
Attachment of setting lever:screwed
Features:
  • SCD (direct center seconds)
  • QG (date indication (aperture))
  • RDR (date corrector)
  • AUT (selfwinding)
Production period:1956 - 1974
References:Flume: 1962 100
Mentioning in literature (years):1963 - 1971
Data sheet:1965
Inventory number:24026

Usage gallery

ETA 2472: Kienzle Swiss Automatic gents watch

Kienzle Swiss Automatic gents watch

ETA 2472: Revue Touring Automatic gents watch

Revue Touring Automatic gents watch


Related Movements

ETA 2450:
10 1/2 lignes = automatic verison of the ETA 2390
11 1/2 lignes = automatic version of the ETA 2391
11 1/2 lignes, date mechanism
11 1/2 lignes, brass oscillating weight
11 1/2 lignes, instantaneous date mechanism
ETA 2474:
11 1/2 lignes, brass oscillating weight, instantaneous date mechanism

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