HMT 8205

 
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HMT 8205

Description

From HMT (Hindustan Machine Tools Limited) in India there’s the 11 1/2 selfwindig caliber HMT 8205, a licensed reproduction of the japanese Citizen/Miyota 8205.

HMT 8205: base plate

base plate

Unsurprisingly, construction and execution are practically identical.

The base plate is richly equipped with jewel bearings, even the minute wheel runs in a jewel-bearing.

HMT 8205: base plate with minute wheel

base plate with minute wheel

The 1970s construction uses a directly driven (by the mainspring barrel) center minute wheel, which is beared under its own bridge.

HMT 8205: gear train

gear train

The gear train is very extensive, as the normal gear train for displaying the time, the gear train for manual winding and the gear train for automatic winding are all housed under one and the same bridge.

For the time works, there are the mainspring barrel, center minute wheel, the third wheel, the seconds wheel and the center seconds pinion simultaneously and finally the escape wheel.

For manual winding, there’s the crown wheel and a slipping transmission wheel (at 10 o’clock), which in one direction engages with the ratchet wheel of the barrel, and on the opposite direction disenganges. Because of that, there’s no need for a breguet clutch on the winding stem.

The selfwinding mechanism consists of just two wheels, a transmission wheel that engages with the ratchet wheel and a clutch wheel, which consists of two wheels mounted on top of each other and transmits the power in one direction of rotation and disengages it in the other direction of rotation. A lever is required for this to prevent the lower wheel from rotating in the “wrong” direction.

HMT 8205: inside the gear train bridge

inside the gear train bridge

To put six thin pivots, the mainspring barrel core and the two gears of the winding mechanism into the bearings of the gear train bridge, is not really trivial.

On the inner side of the gear train bridge, you can see the driving wheel of the ball beared oscillating weight, which engages with the clutch wheel of the selfwinding mechanism. This construction realizes a unidirectional selfwinding system.

Additionally, you can see the friction spring, which applies a little tension on the center seconds pinion. This should eliminitate an uneven run and jumps of the center seconds hand.

HMT 8205: side view of the gear train

side view of the gear train

The HMT 8205 uses a two-leg Glucydur balance, which is beared in two Citizen Parashock bearings. Like the original, it beats with 21600 A/h and can be regulated at the hairspring key only.

HMT 8205: w/o oscillating weight

w/o oscillating weight

The oscillating weight is screwed onto the ball bearing. It winds unidirectionally.

HMT 8205: empty dial side

empty dial side

On the yet empty dial side, you can see the yoke winding system with its three positions. In the middle position, date and weekday indication can be quickly corrected.

HMT 8205: calender mechanism

calender mechanism

The calendar mechanism uses already plastic parts.

More interesting is the quickset mechanism at 3 o’clock, where a lever, according to the winding direction of the stem, either advances the weekday disk with its gear on its inner side, or advances the date ring.

HMT 8205: w/o weekday disc

w/o weekday disc

In this movement, just like the original, all springs are designed in such a way that they remain quite stable in the movement even without a cover and do not fly away at the slightest opportunity.

HMT 8205: HMT 8205: Dial side

HMT 8205: Dial side

Just as the Citizen/Miyota 8205, the HMT 8205 offers a biligual weekday indication.

In the lab

This movement and watch came to the lab in heavily used condition and with visible water damage and got a simple service.

Timegrapher result

Considering the poor condition of the movement, the rates ​​are still acceptable. In better condition, they should be similar to those of the Citizen/Miyota 8205.

horizontal positions
dial up +16 s/d 198° 0.0ms
dial down +18 s/d 201° 0.0ms
vertical positions
crown right (12 up) +-0 s/d 192° 0.2ms
crown up (3 up) 4 s/d 197° 0.1ms
crown left (6 up) +22 s/d 191° 0.1ms
crown down (9 up) +11 s/d 194° 0.0ms

Technical data

Manufacturer:HMT
Caliber:8205
Caliber base:Miyota 8205
Size:11 1/2''' (measured: 25,6mm)
A/h:21600
Escapement:Pallet lever
Balance types: Glucydur anular balance (two legs)
Shock protection(s): Parashock 1 (Citizen)
Balance bearing / direction hairspring:Clockwise
Moveable stud:yes
Adjust mechanism:Hairspring key
Construction:
  • lever
  • escape wheel, seconds wheel, third wheel, center second pinion, mainspring barrel
  • center minute wheel
Construction type:solid construction
Winding mechanism:yoke winding system
Setting lever spring:3 hole(s)
Attachment of setting lever:plugged
Features:
  • SCI (indirect center seconds)
  • QG (date indication (aperture))
  • JG (weekday indication (aperture))
  • RDR (date corrector)
  • AUT (selfwinding)
Inventory number:23055

Usage gallery

HMT 8205: HMT Kailash gents watch

HMT Kailash gents watch

This movement and watch is a kind donation from Jake R. Kaywell to the movement archive. Thank you very much for your great support!

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